Comments on: Protect transgender prisoners http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/2008/07/02/protect-transgender-prisoners/ A website for LGBT folks who support marriage as the union of husband and wife—and getting the gay leadership to return to more pressing LGBT issues for our community. Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Delores http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/2008/07/02/protect-transgender-prisoners/#comment-7734 Delores Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:26:44 +0000 http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/?p=78#comment-7734 My friend was confined in Penelles county florida jail and was alowed her hormones,but when she was transferred to a Michigan jail they refused to alow her to have her meds,even though a VA doctor had prescribed them for her. My friend was confined in Penelles county florida jail and was alowed her hormones,but when she was transferred to a Michigan jail they refused to alow her to have her meds,even though a VA doctor had prescribed them for her.

]]> By: Mark Barton http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/2008/07/02/protect-transgender-prisoners/#comment-1482 Mark Barton Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:31:58 +0000 http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/?p=78#comment-1482 David: 'The last prison-rape bill had more Republican co-sponsors than Democrats.' I'm not sure which bill you're referring to or what your point is. If you mean the 2003 federal bill then it passed unanimously but did very little, which could be read as a bipartisan consensus to do nothing. In particular it made money available for states to study the problem, _if_ they thought they had one, which of course the ones with problems don't. 'I think we could really put together a coalition from the left and right that would aim to protect transgender prisoners - with more support than transgender ENDA ever got.' Make up your mind. Are we attacking prison rape in general or rape of transgender prisoners in particular? Support for the former can't be counted on to carry over to the latter. On the contrary, emphasizing transgender prisoners could very well poison the broader effort. Mind you, I have no particular confidence that the mainstream LGBT groups are striking the optimum balance here, I just have even less confidence in your judgement, given as how it seems to be driven by a concern for LGBT groups to spend money on anything but SSM, something you oppose. David: ‘The last prison-rape bill had more Republican co-sponsors than Democrats.’

I’m not sure which bill you’re referring to or what your point is. If you mean the 2003 federal bill then it passed unanimously but did very little, which could be read as a bipartisan consensus to do nothing. In particular it made money available for states to study the problem, _if_ they thought they had one, which of course the ones with problems don’t.

‘I think we could really put together a coalition from the left and right that would aim to protect transgender prisoners – with more support than transgender ENDA ever got.’

Make up your mind. Are we attacking prison rape in general or rape of transgender prisoners in particular? Support for the former can’t be counted on to carry over to the latter. On the contrary, emphasizing transgender prisoners could very well poison the broader effort. Mind you, I have no particular confidence that the mainstream LGBT groups are striking the optimum balance here, I just have even less confidence in your judgement, given as how it seems to be driven by a concern for LGBT groups to spend money on anything but SSM, something you oppose.

]]> By: David Benkof http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/2008/07/02/protect-transgender-prisoners/#comment-1244 David Benkof Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:58:03 +0000 http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/?p=78#comment-1244 Mark- The last prison-rape bill had more Republican co-sponsors than Democrats. I think we could really put together a coalition from the left and right that would aim to protect transgender prisoners - with more support than transgender ENDA ever got. Mark-

The last prison-rape bill had more Republican co-sponsors than Democrats. I think we could really put together a coalition from the left and right that would aim to protect transgender prisoners – with more support than transgender ENDA ever got.

]]> By: Mark Barton http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/2008/07/02/protect-transgender-prisoners/#comment-1062 Mark Barton Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:59:34 +0000 http://www.gaysdefendmarriage.com/?p=78#comment-1062 David: 'The major transgender issue they have fought over in the last few years is whether a workplace fairness bill nobody expects to pass covers sexual orientation alone or gender identity as well.' So let me get this straight: instead of wasting money on transsexuals in the workplace, who politicians and the general public don't have enough sympathy for to help, we should focus on a group that politicians and the general public have even less sympathy for, transsexuals in jail. Yeah. Right. OK. David: ‘The major transgender issue they have fought over in the last few years is whether a workplace fairness bill nobody expects to pass covers sexual orientation alone or gender identity as well.’

So let me get this straight: instead of wasting money on transsexuals in the workplace, who politicians and the general public don’t have enough sympathy for to help, we should focus on a group that politicians and the general public have even less sympathy for, transsexuals in jail. Yeah. Right. OK.

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